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Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Yú Jí 于吉

Posted by Ricky Chua On 2:34 PM 52 comments

Translated description:
"Priest of Supreme Peace 太平道人 (tài píng dào rén)"

Wikipedia link: Yu Ji Wiki

Who is he:
This Daoist priest had only half a chapter's air-time, but his impact on the story was enormous. If not for Yu Ji, Sun Quan 孙权 would not have become ruler of the Wu Kingdom. While Sun Ce 孙策 was still alive, the officers of Wu Kingdom gathered around an old Daoist priest  one day. Sun Ce was very averse to superstition and became extremely upset that his people were listening to hocus-pocus nonsense. That Daoist priest, Yu Ji, was thus thrown into prison, which greatly alarmed many officers and citizens. Till then, Yu Ji has constantly been healing the sick with magic for free and has done a lot of social good. Sun Ce refused to pardon Yu Ji and ordered him executed. Alas, the magic of Yu Ji cursed Sun Ce and Sun Ce began seeing apparitions of Yu Ji everywhere he went. It was thus that Sun Ce went mad and died from a ruptured wound.


Character ability: "Bewilder 盅惑 (zhōng huò)"
Whenever you use a Basic Card (like ATTACK 杀, PEACH 桃 etc.) or Non-Time-Delay Tool cards (such as DISMANTLE 过河拆桥, NEGATE 无懈可击 etc.), you can verbalize the intended card but play the card faced down on the table. If nobody doubts the authenticity of the card, the card takes the effect as verbalized. If there is (are) any player(s) that doubt the authenticity of the card, the card must be flipped over to expose the true identity of the card.

- If the card is real, every player that expressed doubted will lose 1 unit of health.
- If the card is a fake, every player that expressed doubt gets to draw 1 card from the deck.

Regardless whether the card is real or fake, the card is rendered useless as long as it has been flipped over UNLESS the card is both real and has a suit of "hearts", in which case the card still is effective.

Ability's relation to the story:
Yu Ji never actually spread any stories or propaganda in his time alive, but Sun Ce simply refused to believe it. Thus the basis of the ability "Bewilder" comes from Sun Ce's accusation that Yu Ji was bewildering his citizens.

Additional info based on story:
1. Most famous achievement - Controlling the weather. Yu Ji was asked by Sun Ce to prove that he was no trickster by summoning the rain amidst a drought. Yu Ji successfully brought the rain, which came in torrents and flooded the city, but still Sun Ce was not appeased.

2. Cause of death - Executed in public by Sun Ce. After bringing the rain, Sun Ce ordered Yu Ji beheaded. His officers pleaded on behalf of Yu Ji, which enraged Sun Ce further. He questioned all within earshot if they were revolting because of this priest, and no one dare speak up after that. After Yu Ji was executed, Sun Ce had his body displayed in public for all to see, but the corpse mysteriously vanished the following day. Thereafter, Yu Ji haunted Sun Ce till he became mad and died.

FAQ and Disambiguation

1. Will a card be rendered useless or effective if it's true identity is ''heart'' peach but is verbalised as Attack Card?

Ans: The will be rendered useless because it was a bluff.

The sequence follows the following order of steps:

Step 1 : Authentic or bluff?? Bluff=card rendered useless(regardless of suit),Authentic=Go to step 2

Step 2: Is the authentic card of a heart suit?No=card rendered useless, Yes= card still effective.


2. If i used an attack card that was'nt heart, and I said it was an attack, but people doubt it, they will get hit once,but the attack I used will not work anymore?

Ans: Yes that is correct.


3. If I use an attack card, and no one guessed it was a bluff, it gets used as an attack card even if it is'nt a heart?

Ans: Yes that is also correct.


4. If no one doubted the card, do you have to flip it over after the effect is used?

Ans: This is arguable. A friend of mine plays the online version, and in that version the bluff card is exposed after conclusion of effect. However in our ''real-life'' version, our house rules are a card that was never doubted will never be exposed. his prevents other players from counting probability. I'm calling this one as dependent on house-rules.


5. Do we need to specify our ATTACK element if the enemy has Rattan Armor?

Ans: Yes. if the enemy has Rattan Armor, you will need to specify your ATTACK element. If you verbalise a FIRE ATTACK but in reality is a normal attack, it is considered that you lied.


6. If he plays a card face down and it is the actual card and Cao Cao is on the field. Cao Cao declared it as a bluff, but since it was wrong would Cao cao take the card since Cao Cao is damaged?

Ans: No Cao Cao cannot take the card that is a fake. The reason is due to Cao Cao's ability description . He can only pick up the card that caused him damage. In Yu Ji's case, it is Yu Ji's ability that caused the damage, and not the fake card. This is identical to 貂蝉 Diao Chan using ''Seed of Animosity '' against Cao Cao , where if Cao Cao suffers damage, he cannot pick up the card that Diao Chan used.


7. If the bluff card was fake and suit of heart, and people called it, it is rendered ineffective and the players who called the bluff draw a card or they don't? Because it is a heart card?''

Ans: As long as it is a fake, the card will be rendered useless once the bluff is called. It does not matter even if it is heart-suit. The players who call your bluff get to draw 1 card each. The heart-suited card ONY works when the card is real.


8. If Yu Ji plays Dodge facedown, even though it is real, and it gets doubted, does Yu Ji lose 1 life since his 'dodge' becomes useless, which is unable to dodge the attack?''

Ans: This is correct ONLY IF that dodge is not heart suit.

Once any card is under doubt and flipped over, it becomes useless(which in your scenario, the dodge is wasted and Yu Ji needs to use another dodge card to evade the attack) unless the suit of the card is heart, in which case the card is still effective(which in your scenario, if the dodge card flipped over is heart suit, Yu Ji does not need another dodge.)


9. If SiMa Yi called his bluff , and it was a real card, and he gets hit, does he still get to take a card from Yu Ji, and is he able to take the bluff card?

Ans: Sima Yi cannot take any card from Yu Ji . The reasin is Yu Ji's ability causes the victim to ''lose a unit health''. It is akin to the victim being stupid enough to guess wrongly, and therefore the damage is due ti his own fault.


10. Can Yu Ji bluff time delay cards such as Bing Liang Cun Duan , Le Be Si Shu, lightning etc?

Ans: Nope . Those are the only cards he cannot bluff.


11. How does expression of doubt work? One after the other by turn order, or must everyone give an answer at the same time?

Ans: The official way that doubt is expressed is by turn order. The official way goes like this:

1. Yuji plays a card upside down.
2. Player using Yuji asks the player on his right, '' do you doubt this card?''
3. Reply must be obtained before going to the next player.
4. All players must be asked.


12. Can the player that plays Yu Ji doubt his own card?

Ans: No he cannot.


13. If Yu Ji 于吉 plays a hearts ''PEACH '' and Cao Cao曹操 doubts it, so the card is revealed. Since the card is true and hearts , Yu Ji gains 1 life. Since the card is true, Cao Cao 曹操 loses 1 life and takes the peach. In this case Cao Cao 曹操 is in a sure win situation? Coz if Yu Ji 于吉 lies, Cao Cao 曹操 still gain one card.

Ans: Cao Cao CANNOT take the Peach card?

The reason is Cao Cao loses a unit of health due to Yu Ji's ability. It is not the Peach card that causes him to lose health.

Therefore when Cao cao loses health whenever he guesses Yu Ji's cards wrongly he will never pick up any of the cards.

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52 comments:

  1. Pardon the language, but within my group of friends (since a couple don't speak Chinese), we just call him the "mind-fuck guy".

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  2. IMO this guy is just awesome. "Mind-fuck" is an understatement since he affects every player.

    However, this guy is also one of the first to die in the round cause everyone hates him so much!

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  3. Let's say.. I place a "heart" peach and verbalised it as Attack Card. Another player doubt and hence the card was flipped over.
    Is the card rendered useless or still effective??

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  4. The card will be rendered useless because it was a bluff.

    The sequence follows the following order of steps:

    Step 1: Authentic or bluff?? Bluff = card rendered useless (regardless of suit), Authentic = go to step 2.

    Step 2: Is the authentic card of a heart suit? No = card rendered useless, Yes = card still effective.

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  5. Hey!

    Here's a question my brother and I came across while playing the other day. I was Yu Ji and I verbalized a card as a . He thought I was bluffing so he said I was lying. Thus he lost a life. Here's the question part: Since the is rendered useless, which means it didn't take effect, am I allowed to verbalize another card as ? Or can I even still use a that turn? If he can, it's ALMOST like a crossbow assuming all the cards you use ARE and someone always thinks you're bluffing :)

    Thanks for the clarifications!

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  6. Hi Ryan, the card you are referring to is ATTACK? it didn't show up in the comment.

    Anyway, (assuming you meant ATTACK) the card is rendered useless means you never actually used the card. You can REPEATEDLY use this trick with some exceptions.

    1st exception: nobody doubted your card. thus it gets used as attack. thus u cannot use another attack in that turn, whether real or fake.

    2nd exception: the ATTACK card has a heart suit, therefore despite being flipped over, it still works.

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  7. If Yu Ji verbalise an ATTACK and the oponent has a REN WANG SHIELD, does he have to verbalise the suit of the card as well since black ATTACK cards cannot work against it? Or does Yu Ji simply have to verbalise it as an ATTACK?

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  8. @Anonymous - I'm not 100% sure, but I believe you have to verbalize the suit of the ATTACK card as well to hit someone with a Ren Wang Shield.

    @Ricky - Yea I did mean attack! Thanks for the clarification! Don't know why it didn't show up.

    ONE more question (extends Rusty's question up there): Let's say I used a heart suited peach as an ATTACK, and someone calls my bluff, thus the card is flipped over. Since it's a peach and not an ATTACK, they draw a card. However, since it is heart suited, the card is not rendered useless. Is it played now as a PEACH or an ATTACK?

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  9. @Anonymous: Never quite thought of that before. My research on the Chinese forums show that the colour of the ATTACK card need not be verbalized, but rather will take the actual colour of the card used.

    This means that despite your target having Ren Wang Shield, you can go ahead and simply say "ATTACK". He can only doubt the card itself and not the colour.

    Say for instance you use a diamond ATTACK, and he doubts. The card is flipped and indeed you told the truth. He suffers 1 damage, but the card is rendered useless anyway (ie: does not matter if suit is diamond, club or spade).

    However if the card is heart ATTACK, then on top of suffering 1 damage for doubting, he still needs to DODGE.

    Thus you see, it really does not matter whether you verbalize or not because either the card is rendered useless if doubted, or still applicable if hearts.

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  10. @Ryan: The bluff card is always rendered useless, regardless of the suit. Only if it was real will the HEARTS-still-effective rule apply. I just realized this portion is missing from my writing above. Thanks once again!

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  11. Ahh got it! Thanks Ricky for clearing that up!

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  12. Okay let me get this straight.
    If i used a attack card that wasn't heart, and i said it was an attack, but people doubt it, they will get hit once, but the attack i used will not work anymore?

    Also, if I used an attack card, and no one guessed it was a bluff, it gets used as an attack card even if it isn't a heart?

    And lastly, if no one doubted the card, do you have to flip it over after the effect is used?
    i mean like if you slashed someone with a peach but no one called bluff, after the victim throws an evade or gets hit, do you flip the card over?

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  13. >If i used a attack card that wasn't heart, and i said it was an attack, but people doubt it, they will get hit once, but the attack i used will not work anymore?

    Yes that is correct.

    >Also, if I used an attack card, and no one guessed it was a bluff, it gets used as an attack card even if it isn't a heart?

    Yes that is also correct.

    >And lastly, if no one doubted the card, do you have to flip it over after the effect is used?
    i mean like if you slashed someone with a peach but no one called bluff, after the victim throws an evade or gets hit, do you flip the card over?

    This is arguable. A friend of mine plays the online version, and in that version the bluff card is exposed after conclusion of effect. However in our "real-life" version, our house rules are a card that was never doubted will never be exposed. This prevents other players from counting probability. I'm calling this one as dependent on house-rules.

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    1. Two questions: What if it was a bluff but everybody believed it?
      And if the card was never doubted, what does it take affect as? ^_^

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    2. Then the card becomes the card you said it was. Basically Yu Ji has the ability to make any card into any card, IF people believe you.

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  14. We can play ANY card face down and verbalize a basic card or non-time delay card right?

    Also, waht if an enemy has Ratan Armor and you say attack, can it work at all?

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  15. Yes that is correct. The actual identity of the hidden card does not matter. It is what is verbalized that matters.

    If the enemy has Rattan Armor, you will need to specify your ATTACK element. If you verbalize a FIRE ATTACK but in reality is a normal attack, it is considered that you lied.

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  16. If he bluffs a card and it is the actual card and Cao Cao is on the field. Cao Cao declares it as a bluff, but since it was realy would Cao Cao take the card?

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  17. If the bluff card was fake and a heart, and people called it, it is rendered ineffective and the players who called the bluff draw a card or they don't? Because it is a heart card?

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  18. “If he bluffs a card and it is the actual card and Cao Cao is on the field. Cao Cao declares it as a bluff, but since it was realy would Cao Cao take the card?”

    Ans: NO. Cao Cao cannot take the card that is a fake. The reason is due to Cao Cao's ability description. He can only pick up the card that caused him damage. In Yu Ji's case, it is Yu Ji's ability that caused the damage, and not the fake card. This is identical to Diao Chan 貂蝉 using "Seed of Animosity 离间" against Cao Cao, where if Cao Cao suffers damage he cannot pick up the card that Diao Chan used.


    "If the bluff card was fake and a heart, and people called it, it is rendered ineffective and the players who called the bluff draw a card or they don't? Because it is a heart card?"

    Ans: As long as it is a fake, the card will be rendered useless once the bluff is called. It does not matter even if it is heart-suit. The players who call your bluff get to draw 1 card each.

    The heart-suited card ONLY works when the card is real.

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  19. Hi,

    When player A attack Yu Ji, and Yu Ji bewilders a card as 'dodge'. If player A doubt the 'dodge' card, and it turned out to be fake. Player A get to draw a card from deck, and does Yu Ji lose 1 life since his 'dodge' becomes useless, which is unable to dodge the attack?
    Or
    Is Yu Ji able to bewilder any card as dodge or use a dodge card again?

    Thanks

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  20. "...and does Yu Ji lose 1 life since his 'dodge' becomes useless, which is unable to dodge the attack?"

    >> This is correct ONLY IF that dodge is not heart suit.

    Once any card is under doubt and flipped over, it becomes useless (which in your scenario, the dodge is wasted and Yu Ji needs to use another dodge card to evade the attack) unless the suit of the card is heart, in which case the card is still effective (which in your scenario, if the dodge card flipped over is heart suit, Yu Ji does not need another dodge.)

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  21. If Sima Yi called his bluff, and it was a real card, and he gets hit, does he still get to take a card from Yu Ji, and is he able to take the bluff card?

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  22. Can Yu Ji bluff time delay cards such as Bing Liang Cun Duan, Le Bu Si Shu, lightning, etc

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  23. If Sima Yi called his bluff, and it was a real card, and he gets hit, does he still get to take a card from Yu Ji, and is he able to take the bluff card?

    >>ANS: Sima Yi cannot take any card from Yu Ji. The reason is Yu Ji's ability causes the victim to "lose a unit health". It is akin to the victim being stupid enough to guess wrongly, and therefore the damage is due to his own fault.

    To make it easier to understand, just think of it as getting hit by Lightning. Nobody's the cause of damage.


    Can Yu Ji bluff time delay cards such as Bing Liang Cun Duan, Le Bu Si Shu, lightning, etc

    >>ANS: Nope. those are the only cards he cannot bluff.

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  24. This card raises an interesting question:

    Say a card is verbally played as X. Several of the other players do not wish this card to be played, but once one person casts doubt on the card, the rest of the players can opt not to cast doubt themselves in order to prevent themselves from incurring the end result (-1 life or draw 1 card).

    So, how does expression of doubt work? One after the other by turn order, or must everyone give an answer at the same time? Although both ways open many mindgame options, I would like to know the official way it works.

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  25. The official way that doubt is expressed is by turn order. The REAL official way goes like this:

    1. Yuji plays a card upside down.
    2. Player using Yuji asks the player on his right, "do you doubt this card?".
    3. Reply must be obtained before going to the next player.
    4. All players must be asked.

    It takes a really long time!!

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  26. Can the player that plays Yu Ji doubt his own card?

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  27. Qn: if Yú Jí 于吉 plays a hearts "PEACH 桃" and Cao Cao 曹操 doubts it, so the card is revealed. since the card is true and hearts, Yú Jí 于吉 gains 1 life. since the card is true, Cao Cao 曹操 loses 1 life and takes the peach. in this case Cao Cao 曹操 is in a sure win situation? coz if Yú Jí 于吉 lies, Cao Cao 曹操 still gain one card

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  28. Cao Cao CANNOT take the Peach card!

    The reason is Cao Cao loses a unit of health due to Yu Ji's ability. It is not the Peach card that causes him to lose health.

    Therefore when Cao Cao loses health whenever he guesses Yu Ji's cards wrongly, he will never pick up any of the cards.

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  29. can guo jia draw cards from the damage?
    can xiao qiao redirect the damage?

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  30. Yes to both questions above. Both Guo Jia and Xiao Qiao's abilities pay no regard to the source of the damage.

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    1. I don't think they can, because the character loses 1 unit of health, but they do not suffer damage. ^_^

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  31. A reader left the comment below but it mysteriously disappeared. I'm reproducing the post below to answer the very valid questions posed.

    Question:
    Ricky, I disagree that 于吉 need not verbalize the suit when playing a verbalized 杀 facedown against a character wearing 人王盾 armor. I think that it need not be verbalized only in the sense that it may be assumed that the person playing as 于吉 intends for it to be of the red suits. Obviously, he would not declare it to be a black 杀, since the armor blocks it, so it may be assumed to be red. But if the person being targeted by the attack, is wearing the armor and calls the bluff the 杀 needs to be a red suit in order to count as real. If it was a black 杀, it should still count as a bluff.

    On December 9, 2010, you said "If the enemy has Rattan Armor, you will need to specify your ATTACK element. If you verbalize a FIRE ATTACK but in reality is a normal attack, it is considered that you lied."
    This would seem to contradict the notion that 于吉 need not specify the suit of a 杀 card played to a character wearing the 人王盾 armor.

    Also, I have a question: Suppose 于吉 plays a 酒杀 face down, and a player doubts both cards. If both cards are authentic, does the player who expressed doubt in both cards suffer two points of damage? Also, can the player doubt the authenticity of one card, but not the other? So in other words, would 于吉 have to specify which card is the 酒 and which card is the 杀?


    Answer:
    There has been a change in the YOKA FAQ for Yu Ji! Now the suit of the card that was used matters!

    REF: http://bbs.sanguosha.com/viewthread.php?tid=42840

    The 2 big changes are:

    1. Every card that was played faced down must be exposed even if nobody expressed doubt. [Whether this applies all the time or only when suit does matter is not clear]

    2. The exposed card's suit matters even if the card was played as a bluff and nobody expressed doubt.

    The example given in the REF link above is this scenario:

    "Yu Ji falsely uses a ACEDIA 乐不思蜀 card with suit of clubs as ATTACK, against a character equipped with Ren Wang Armor 仁王盾.

    "Nobody expresses any doubt. The false card is thus viewed as an ATTACK. The card must now be turned over to verify the suit.

    "The suit of the card is clubs, thus even though the card is viewed as an ATTACK, it has no effect against the Ren Wang Armor"

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  32. In response to his 2nd question about WINE ATTACK 酒杀:

    Answer:
    WINE ATTACK is viewed as a two step process

    1. Drinking Wine, followed by

    2. Using Attack.

    Therefore for Yu Ji these two cards must be used separately, but in the order shown above.

    Other players can express doubt for each of the cards separately.

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  33. Ricky Chua said...
    Yes to both questions above. Both Guo Jia and Xiao Qiao's abilities pay no regard to the source of the damage.

    February 23, 2011 4:05 PM

    That`s wrong IMO. Both Guo Jia and Xiao Qiao`s abilities work the same way as Cao Cao`s. That`s why Yu Ji and Zhang Chunhua are considered "killers of those who are willing to suffer damage".

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  34. Ricky was referring to Cao Cao not being able to get the card even though he suffered damage as it was Yu Ji's ability that caused the damage, not the card.. What are you talking about?

    Their abilities work the same as Cao Cao in what context?

    Yu Ji and ZCH are considered.. By who? For what purpose?

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  35. I mean that Guo Jia cannot draw cards if he doubts a real card, and Xiao Qiao cannot redirect the damage. They will loose a unit of health without activating their skills. By making parallels with CC`s skill I mean "suffering damage" as a trigger of their skills, not "losing health".
    Same for ZCH`s attacks that make opponents loose health instead of suffering damage.

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  36. Hi Ricky :

    Someone ask the following question and you had given answer for it. but i not sure if i got it right, so please englighten me. thanks:-D The question is :
    Let's say I used a heart suited peach as an ATTACK, and someone calls my bluff, thus the card is flipped over. Since it's a peach and not an ATTACK, they draw a card. However, since it is heart suited, the card is not rendered useless. Is it played now as a PEACH or an ATTACK?

    My thought is that since the flip over is a heart but it not an attack cut, the card is determine as useless right?

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  37. "I mean that Guo Jia cannot draw cards if he doubts a real card, and Xiao Qiao cannot redirect the damage. They will loose a unit of health without activating their skills. By making parallels with CC`s skill I mean "suffering damage" as a trigger of their skills, not "losing health".
    Same for ZCH`s attacks that make opponents loose health instead of suffering damage."

    Thanks for clarifying! I guess that's because of the phrase "lose 1 unit of health" instead of "take 1 damage"? Actually, I noticed that a few other cards have this phrase as well..

    ^You are absolutely right, the card is rendered useless. All "bluff" cards will be rendered useless once flipped over. Only a true heart that has been flipped over can still take effect.

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  38. Small yet critical addendium. When a player is on the brink of death, they cannot doubt Yu Ji. This prevents them from drawing that all important peach. Also, if Zhou Tai is playing and is in his purgatory mode, he cannot doubt Yu Ji. So, and this has happened, if it is a one on one between Yu Ji and Zhou Tai, Yu Ji can use any card as any card. 20 draw twos? Sure! Zhou Tai cannot doubt him. This means that he can keep using things like duel and draw two to kill him in one turn.

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  39. why can't they doubt Yu Ji?

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  40. ^I am one of Jason's friends - we are not exactly sure why people on the brink of death cannot doubt, but we have confirmed this by playing online. We think that it has something to do with the fact that Yu Ji can use each of his hand cards claiming that he is saving the character on the brink of death with a peach. If Yu Ji is lying each time and the character on the brink of death doubts each time, they have a chance of drawing a peach that they can use to save his/herself. We believe that Yoka Games thought that this would be unfair, but again, we are not exactly sure.

    One consequence of this rule is that when Zhou Tai is in "purgatory mode," he is constantly on the brink of death. Therefore, he can never doubt Yu Ji, even when Yu Ji isn't trying to save him. This can be powerful in a one-on-one match since Yu Ji can use any of his cards as draw 2 and accumulate a bunch of cards while looking for the crossbow and the ancient scimitar.

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  41. This page displays a lack of discernment of two terms:

    受到伤害 (taking damage) and 失去体力 (losing health)

    Most of the time when you remove a bar from your health is because of "taking damage": For example, getting "attacked" without a dodge card, subject to "duel" or "barbarian invasion" without an attack card, subject to "rain of arrows" without a dodge card, striked by lightning (by the card or by 张角), being subject to a successful attempt of "blaze", among others. In these instances, the characters are "taking damage", and many character skills will activate as a result: Guo Jia will draw 2 cards for every damage, Si Ma will draw card from damage source, Cao Cao will get the card that causes him damage, etc.

    However, in some instances, you only "lose health" without "suffering damage". In these cases, even though your health bar will decrease, NO CHARACTER SKILL BASED ON "DAMAGE SUFFERING" WILL TRIGGER. Instances include, among (possibly) others:

    1. Calling Yu Ji's bluff wrongly
    2. Being subject to Zhang Chun Qiao's attacks without dodge
    3. Demi-God Zhou Yu's "Sound of Music"
    4. CAUSING DAMAGE to Fa Zheng without giving him a heart suited card
    5. When Jia Xu uses "Descend into Chaos" and you don't use an "attack" card

    This is why When Zhou Tai is in "purgatory mode" he cannot doubt Yu Ji, because he has no health to lose. Characters without health CANNOT call bluffs.

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  42. Thank you! That is very insightful and now I understand why Zhou Tai cannot call bluffs!

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  43. When Zhou Tai is in purgatory mode, does the logic for Yu Ji apply to the other characters that the other anonymous listed? For example, it safe to conclude that when Zhou Tai is in purgatory mode, he cannot play a card that might damage Fa Zheng unless he has a heart card in his hand (as hurting Fa Zheng would cause him to lose health if he doesn't give him a heart)? How does Zhang Chun Hua's "Ruthless" work in this case?

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  44. If a Club suited card is rendered useless via doubt, Is it considered discarded for Cao Zhi's effect?

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    1. Cao Zhi cannot acquire it. Even though it is considered discarded, it is considered as 'not belonged to anyone' since it is rendered useless.

      Official FAQ (in Chinese):
      [Q]于吉发动【蛊惑】的牌被质疑后亮出为梅花,该牌作废进入弃牌堆时,曹植是否可以发动【落英】?
      [A]不可以。“作废”即这张牌不属于任何角色,进入弃牌堆。

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  45. If Yu Ji bewilders any card, and no one doubts, what is going to be the suit/color of that card?
    1. Is it dependent on the card used to bewilder itself
    or
    2. No color?

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    1. Same color as the card itself.

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