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Thursday, July 29, 2010

Wèi Yán 魏延

Posted by Ricky Chua On 5:41 PM 15 comments
Translated description:
"The blood-thirsty lone-wolf 嗜血的独狼 (shì xuě dè dú láng)"

Wikipedia link: Wei Yan Wiki

Who is he:
We all know a rebellious kid back in school who just refused to listen to instructions. Wei Yan is a competent Shu Han 蜀汉 general who was similar to that kid. Though not an outright rebel, Wei Yan always had that streak in him that made him difficult to lead. If there was a phrase that he would say, it would probably go along the lines of "Why should I (bla bla)...". In true dramatic fashion, Wei Yan became the "bad guy" when he revolted against Zhu Ge Liang 诸葛亮 and Shu Han. In today's world, he would probably make a pretty successful entrepreneur!

Character ability: "Insanity Streak 狂骨 (kuáng gǔ)" [Enforced ability]
Whenever you cause damage to any player within physical range of 1, you regain 1 unit of health for every 1 unit of damage caused.

(Taking this to the extreme, Wei Yan can regain 4 units of health if he has equipped "-1 horse", uses BARBARIANS 南蛮入侵, and the 4 players to his immediate left and right all suffer damage. Since this is an enforced ability, he cannot choose not to absorb health.)

Ability's relation to story:
A vampirical character is fun to have in a game, though there is no mention of any blood-sucking characters in Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Of course, Wei Yan was never a vampire and wasn't even portrayed anywhere near one. So this ability is purely just for gaming sakes.

Additional info based on story:
1. Most famous achievement - The rescue of Huang Zhong 黄忠 from execution at the city of Chang Sha 长沙. Wei Yan got pissed off by Han Xuan 韩玄's distrust of Huang Zhong and decided to take matters into his own hands. He killed Han Xuan, rescued Huang Zhong, then surrendered the city to Liu Bei. Huang Zhong went on to become one of Liu Bei 刘备's most important generals. If not for Wei Yan, there would be no legend of Huang Zhong.

2. Cause of death - After Zhu Ge Liang died, Wei Yan openly revolted against Shu Han. Zhu Ge Liang, being all godly and smart, knew that Wei Yan was going to revolt once he died. Therefore he tipped off Wei Yan's partner Ma Dai 马岱, and laid a trap. In the midst of open revolt, Wei Yan challenged Shu Han's forces and shouted "Who dares to kill me?". Ma Dai happily decapitated him from behind.


FAQ and Disambiguation

1. If Wei Yan uses BARBARIANS and everyone who is in play is damaged, will Wei Yan be able to heal himself through his ability?

Ans: Yes, but only from those within his physical range on his left and right.


2. Would Wei Yan heal himself if he uses Fire/Lightning attack on a player that is shackled to other characters?

Ans: Yes he would ONLY if the ATTACK successfully cause damage to a player within a range of 1.


3. Does Wei Yan's ability still apply if he causes damage to himself?

Ans: Yes, because he falls within his own physical range of 1. See next question for more details.


4. If Wei Yan attacks Xiao Qiao and she transfers the damage back to Wei Yan, how should this be resolved?

Ans: Follow this sequence below:

1. Wei Yan damage Xiao Qiao (eg: 2 units)
2. She transfers back to Wei Yan.
3. Wei Yan suffers his own damage first.(lose 2 units) IMPT! If Wei Yan in on the vrink of death, he must be rescued first before step 4 activates.
4. Wei Yan regains 2 units of health due to his ability.(total, no loss in health)
5. Wei Yan draws cards for Xiao Qiao's deflect.Number of cards calculated based on his health after step 4.

15 comments:

  1. Quick question, I noticed that you stated (during the part about taking wei yan's ability to the extreme) that if he equips the -1 horse and uses barbarians, only the 4 players to his immediate right and left are affected? I thought barbarians affected everyone in play (regardless of range)?

    Thanks for the clarification!

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  2. Oops my bad for not being clear enough. What i meant to say was that all the players are affected by the BARBARIANS card, but Wei Yan can only absorb the health of those within his physical range.

    Which means if there were 9 players (excluding Wei Yan) and all 9 suffered damage from BARBARIANS, Wei Yan would only be able to absorb those players on his left and right physical range.

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  3. Oh that's my fault for not reading it properly! Thanks for the clarification!

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  4. Came across this situation while playing today,
    if Wei Yan was shackled to some other character and he uses Fire attack/lightning attack on the shackled player, then would he gain life back after taking damages?

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  5. Only if the ATTACK successfully caused damage to a player within a range of 1. Being shackled together does not necessarily mean the other player is within range 1.

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  6. @Ren Jie - The only time Wei Yan can regain life is if he damages players within his physical range. So to answer your question, it depends on if the players who took damage is in his physical range.

    Hmm, actually I just reread your question, are you talking about the damage wei yan would receive? I believe he is in his own attack range, so yes it would be like he did not take damage from the shackles (because he would just regenerate it).

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  7. Just an edit to my comment above, I meant "physical range" and no "attack range".

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  8. Ren Jie: Both Princemousey and Ryan is correct. Physical range of the player he is chained to determines if Wei Yan can gain life back.

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  9. What if damage gets transferred back to him, such that he deals dmg to himself. Does he still heal?

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  10. No he doesn't. His ability only applies when he causes damage to others, not himself.

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  11. If Wei Yan causes damage to Xiao Qiao, and shes within his physical range, but she transfers the damage to somebody outside of his physical range, does he still get to regenerate health since technically she did receive damage but just transferred it?

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  12. Aha~ someone else got the same question as me! Me and my friends played it such that Weiyan will "lifesteal" Xiao Qiao, and take the damage back again if she transfer the damage. Just that Weiyan gets to draw cards due to her ability. So... Maybe we can have Ricky to answer?

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  13. Very tough question. The problem lies with Xiao Qiao's ability. It requires her to pass on damage, which is usually interpreted in 2 opposing ways:

    1. She needs to suffer damage first before passing it.

    2. She just passes the damage without it touching her at all.

    @Anonymous: For your question, there is no firm answer. The references i found is rife with debate, both parties essentially arguing between points 1 and 2.

    REF: http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=781677425


    @superzhichao: it does seem like your description is correct. In sequence:
    1. Wei Yan damage Xiao Qiao. (eg: 2 units)
    2. She transfers back to Wei Yan.
    3. Wei Yan suffers his own damage first. (lose 2 units) IMPT! If Wei Yan in on the brink of death, he must be rescued first before step 4 activates.
    4. Wei Yan regains 2 units of health due to his ability. (total, no loss in health)
    5. Wei Yan draws cards for Xiao Qiao's deflect. Number of cards calculated based on his health after step 4.

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  14. I'd like to bring back the post about causing damage to yourself with this character. It was mentioned this ability only applies to damage caused to other players. However it seems to me the Chinese doesn't actually say "to other player" (this implies excluding yourself). It seems to say any player (implies including yourself) within a physical range of 1. Maybe some others can check this. But it seems that if you are linked and cause elemental damage to someone that you do heal yourself. And this could potentially be very useful.

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  15. ^yeah you do..have seen this while play online SGS. However, please be aware of the seating of people and the way how to damage is transferred among the characters.

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