tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post8544222963815226943..comments2024-02-26T17:56:07.596+08:00Comments on 三国杀! San Guo Sha Cardgame English Walkthrough: Zhāng Jiǎo 张角Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-45428709336856256102013-04-12T03:16:55.180+08:002013-04-12T03:16:55.180+08:00First of all, there are no black Dodge cards, so i...First of all, there are no black Dodge cards, so it is not even possible to exchange judgement with a Dodge.<br />Second, "USE" explicitly means utilizing the function of the card: in the case of Dodge, it is only "used" when you avoid an Attack with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-76516973896676756122013-04-11T10:07:20.421+08:002013-04-11T10:07:20.421+08:00If he uses a Dodge to exchange judgement card, can...If he uses a Dodge to exchange judgement card, can he use Lightning Strike?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-75078679500116314392012-06-13T08:05:01.681+08:002012-06-13T08:05:01.681+08:00Good question, but no, you can only attack other p...Good question, but no, you can only attack other people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-8214015835264166252012-06-13T05:35:01.135+08:002012-06-13T05:35:01.135+08:00Would it be possible for Zhang Jiao to ATTACK hims...Would it be possible for Zhang Jiao to ATTACK himself, then DODGE his own attack to lightning somebody? I checked the rules posted for ATTACK, didn't see anything about the option of attacking yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-44664584357641455852012-04-25T12:06:31.902+08:002012-04-25T12:06:31.902+08:00I believe Lu Bu's attack still 'remains...I believe Lu Bu's attack still 'remains', similar to Dian Wei's ability, but I am not sure. Zhang Jiao still needs to use one more DODGE unless someone fullfils the victory condition (i.e. Lu Bu is the ruler or the last Rebel/Defector). If Zhang Jiao suffers the damage from this attack, it would be considered as damage without source of damage.Billy Yanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01372034490016577496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-56250548708066983362012-04-21T22:04:11.425+08:002012-04-21T22:04:11.425+08:00Let me be more specific. Lu Bu is at 1 health. He ...Let me be more specific. Lu Bu is at 1 health. He attacks Zhang Jiao, who puts out one dodge and lightning subsequently hits Lu Bu who dies. Does Zhang Jiao still need to put out another dodge? Or does Lu Bu's attack disappear?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-44469210217070736492012-04-21T22:00:49.145+08:002012-04-21T22:00:49.145+08:00what happens if Lu Bu attacks Zhang Jiao, Zhang Ji...what happens if Lu Bu attacks Zhang Jiao, Zhang Jiao puts out one dodge and the lightning hits Lu Bu. Does the damage to Zhang Jiao still take effect?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-88229161790695587482012-04-20T16:39:30.590+08:002012-04-20T16:39:30.590+08:00The correct answer is C (the person whose turn it ...The correct answer is C (the person whose turn it is). The judgement tinkering starts at the person whose turn it is, then the character siting right to him/her...Also, everyone has only one chance consider whether to switch the judgement or not. If that character forfeits switching the judgement, he does not have a second chance. So the character changes the judgement last is apparently in advantage.<br /><br />Situation 1: Because it is Sima Yi's turn, so Sima Yi uses "Demonic Talent" first, then Zhang Jiao uses "Demonic Craft" (I prefer this translation). <br /><br />Situation 2: Same as Situation 1.Billy Yanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01372034490016577496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-5488452641898823002012-04-01T18:58:50.196+08:002012-04-01T18:58:50.196+08:00No. You need to use a DODGE (against an ATTACK) or...No. You need to use a DODGE (against an ATTACK) or play a DODGE (against RAINING ARROWS) to trigger "Thunder Strike". When you are using BLAZE, you discard the DODGE but not using nor playing it, so you cannot activate "Thunder Strike".Billy Yanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01372034490016577496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-41786484829200849482012-03-29T23:22:37.342+08:002012-03-29T23:22:37.342+08:00If Zhang Jiao used Blaze, and was able to use a ma...If Zhang Jiao used Blaze, and was able to use a matching suit Dodge card to deal damage to a player, Do he get to use his Lightning Strike?Jasonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-57801121199950439512012-03-15T15:42:22.239+08:002012-03-15T15:42:22.239+08:00Okay just to clear things up a bit more about the ...Okay just to clear things up a bit more about the order of judgement tinkering. <br /><br />Lets say there are only two players in the game, Player A (Zhang Jiao) and Player B (Sima Yi).<br /><br />1. If Player B (Sima) attacks Player A (ZJ), and ZJ dodges and decides to activate Lightning Strike on Sima. The judgement card that is flipped will be Sima's. In the situation who will be the first one that changes the judgement? This clarifies if the judgement tinkering starts with the person who's judgement it is (Sima in this case) or starts to the person on the right (anti-clockwise direction) of the judgement being flipped (ZJ).<br /><br />2. If Player B (Sima) attacks Player A (ZJ), and ZJ has Eight Trigrams equipped and flips a judgement. In this case is the first person to change the judgement, ZJ who's judgement card is being flipped, or is the first person Sima who is the person to the right of the player's (ZJ) turn.<br />This will answer also who changes first when Lightning, Acedia, and/or Rations Depleted is placed on one of these two players. The answer to the first situation should also explain this one.<br /><br />Basically I'm asking if the first judgement change starts:<br /><br />A. On the person who judgement occurs on<br />B. To the right of the person judgement occurs on<br />C. The person whose turn it is (ie. the attacker or person who has a time delay placed on them)<br />D. To the right of the person whose turn it is.<br /><br />Sorry for the long winded comment, hopefully this will be able to end all the arguments that occur when we play. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-19259750547622096292011-11-18T09:45:39.499+08:002011-11-18T09:45:39.499+08:00Precisely, you convert both cards as an ATTACK, an...Precisely, you convert both cards as an ATTACK, and use (ATTACK someone) or play (defend yourself from DUEL and BARBARIANS) it. The two cards lose their original function. So if Zhang Jiao convert DODGE to ATTACK with SERPENT HALBERD, he cannot activate LIGHTNING STRIKE.<br /><br />P.S. (wrt Anonymous 17 Nov) SERPENT HALBERD does regard the suit of the orignal cards, more precisely the colour. <br />Two red cards --> Red ATTACK<br />Two black cards --> Black ATTACK<br />One red and one black card --> Colourless ATTACKBilly Yanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01372034490016577496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-17774201843196163982011-11-17T21:43:57.930+08:002011-11-17T21:43:57.930+08:00Yes this makes sense. And from what i gather this...Yes this makes sense. And from what i gather this means the two cards substituted for the SERPENT HALBERD effects are not play nor used, nor discarded. So previous i mentioned that I distinguish the utilization of cards in three ways; you can play it, use it, or discard it. From this it seems there might be a fourth way to utilize a card; play it, use it, discard it, or substitute it. Does this seem accurate ? And to directly clarify the question for anyone else reading this blog, Zhang Jiao cannot activate his ability for substituting any DODGE cards while using the effects of the SERPENT HALBERD.Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-62321857608500036262011-11-17T14:33:13.338+08:002011-11-17T14:33:13.338+08:00With Serpent Halberd, both cards together are cons...With Serpent Halberd, both cards together are considered an ATTACK card.Princemouseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16275387081936676332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-13920298806145375822011-11-17T13:57:07.152+08:002011-11-17T13:57:07.152+08:00To make my point more clear consider this scenario...To make my point more clear consider this scenario:<br /><br />You have Serpent Halberd equipped and you want to Attack someone but you don't have any Attack Cards you first(you don't really have to...but for the sake of this topic) you declare you want to utilize your weapon, which is the Serpent Halberd.<br /><br />Activate Serpent Helberd->Pick two cards to substitute for Attack-> Attack-> Exit the activation of Serpent Helberd.<br /><br />During the activation, any card that you pick losses it's original usage and will only be treated as two on-hand cards that you are picking for substitutes as Attack.lordleoperdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990756391251212659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-6425636952270221662011-11-17T13:52:04.498+08:002011-11-17T13:52:04.498+08:00^From the Serpent Halberd's weapon ability des...^From the Serpent Halberd's weapon ability description, you can combine two on-hand-cards to substitute as playing/using an ATTACK card. Hence disregard the two on-hand-cards original functions and suits ._.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-69685746297316806652011-11-17T13:42:33.182+08:002011-11-17T13:42:33.182+08:00^this is a very interesting question indeed.
First...^this is a very interesting question indeed.<br />First of all we look at Serpent Halberd's description.<br />The description says that, whenever you need to use/play an Attack, you can use any two on-hand cards to substitute the Attack card that you want to use/play.<br />Main thing to carefully look at is: "you can use any two on-hand cards to SUBSTITUTE the Attack Card you want to use/play"<br />Substitute any two cards is what matters here, you are neither playing/using the two on-hand cards, you can just 'using' them as substitutes to play/use the Attack card.<br />Again, hope this make sense to you.lordleoperdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02990756391251212659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-37045862736729664932011-11-17T11:08:19.226+08:002011-11-17T11:08:19.226+08:00I posted the question concerning the differences b...I posted the question concerning the differences between play, use and discarding cards for TaiShiCi and now I have another question about a similar idea. Lets say Zhang Jiao has the "SERPENT HALBERD" equipped and plays/uses two dodge cards to carry out an ATTACK. I'm not sure if it is considered used or played. If this happens can he perform use his first ability twice ? ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-91477015118556901842011-09-17T10:39:16.687+08:002011-09-17T10:39:16.687+08:00^ Yes, Zhang Jiao can target himself with his abil...^ Yes, Zhang Jiao can target himself with his ability. I have done it online. If you are chained to Gou Jia and you want to strike him without letting him take the judgement card, you should target yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-69322019389183217772011-09-17T09:29:50.981+08:002011-09-17T09:29:50.981+08:00Can Zhang Jiao target himself with lightning strik...Can Zhang Jiao target himself with lightning strike?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-77448999382298509552011-09-03T13:01:37.303+08:002011-09-03T13:01:37.303+08:00Great blog! However, there is one small correction...Great blog! However, there is one small correction I would like to make. <br /><br />"Say player A draws a judgement card ,the 1st tinkerer allowed to change the card is player B(Si Ma Yi) ie. following direction of gameplay. After that player H (Zhang Jiao) can change the judgement card that Si Ma Yi laid down."<br /><br />The order of the judgement tinkerers is actually based on whose turn it is when the judgement is flipped, not the person who flips the judgement. In cases of time-delay tool cards, there is no difference. However, when Zhang Jiao uses "Lightening Strike," he may target someone other than the person who attacked him (i.e. the person who is playing their turn is not flipping the judgement card). In this case, there is a difference between the final outcomes of the two rules. <br /><br />Going back to your example for illustration purposes, let's say player B is Sima, H is Zhang Jiao, C is attacking Zhang Jiao, and A is Zhang Jiao's target (the one flipping the judgement). According to how you have the rule written here, Sima changes the judgement first and Zhang Jiao changes has the final say. From playing online, I have found that in this situation Zhang Jiao changes the judgement first and Sima has the final say (because Zhang Jiao is the first judgement tinkerer that is encountered when going counterclockwise from the person who is playing their turn and Sima is encountered next).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-25581308683261089782011-02-21T18:11:02.346+08:002011-02-21T18:11:02.346+08:00In this case, Zhang Jiao's "Lightning str...In this case, Zhang Jiao's "Lightning strike" ability is not the same as "Lightning" tool card. The source of the damage is attributed to Zhang Jiao, thus the answers to both (a) and (b) are YES.Ricky Chuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01703308903784421717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-66938594268915427192011-02-21T04:51:34.444+08:002011-02-21T04:51:34.444+08:00If Sima Yi attacks zhang jiao and he dodges, and s...If Sima Yi attacks zhang jiao and he dodges, and strikes sima yi with his lightning ability..<br /><br />a)If Sima yi receives 2 damage, does he take a card from Zhang Jiao?<br /><br />b)If sima yi dies, does zhang jiao draw 3 cards if he's a rebel?<br /><br />I ask this question because i've always thought that lightning is a judgment move, and the target player flips the judgment for his own life, thus if he dies or gets struck, it's natural cause, therefore zhangjiao receives no rewards or retalitory cause.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-40788276227813245102011-02-20T16:14:56.542+08:002011-02-20T16:14:56.542+08:00So it is confirmed then. Xiao Qiao is freaking lig...So it is confirmed then. Xiao Qiao is freaking lightning proof!Ricky Chuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01703308903784421717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7379290353085237188.post-55493085326312856472011-02-20T11:22:40.980+08:002011-02-20T11:22:40.980+08:00Online rules show that if Zhang Jiao changes Xiao ...Online rules show that if Zhang Jiao changes Xiao Qiao's judgement card from Lightning, it will still be a heart.... this "balances" out so that Xiao Qiao can never be hit by lightning damage when it is her turn, and thus allowing her to transfer 3 damage to anyone.. (overpowered..)<br /><br />Unless of course she is shackled to someone and they get hit by lightning....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com